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dick's cafe in san francisco . on the corner of sanchez and 16th . rick london introduced me to him . rick is the author of ' the bones in the road ' and was the weekend bartender at dick's it was there that i met most of the arists that i knew from san francisco , before i found out about mail art . rick introduced me to s. clay wilson and dave geiser and many others at the bar and at other places . so jack was part of this crowd , at least when he was around . we would sit and talk about things i knew not much about and they knew a lot so i would listen or b.s. . from all of this came my interest in art . the stories and the studies and the beer and smoke . so i bought books and drawings and chap books and other things from jack over a period of years in the early 80's . and we would talk and drink till late at night or early in the morning after dicks closed and we wandered up the block to 232 sanchez st . san francisco . durning all of this time i started a series of books that i would have all of these different artists do some work in as we sat and talked and drank and smoked and passed the day and night . and after many years of doing this in many different places i have put together a library . all kinds of books from my travels and the artists that i met , and books on asia and textiles and more . NEXT